
Late last year, I had a chat with someone much wiser than myself about feminism. About why I didn't see myself as a feminist. And the discussion we had about the many, many different types of feminism really stuck with me. It takes a lot for someone to change your opinion on the spot. Stubbornness sets in. You don't listen until you have time to digest. But that's what happened. I realised just how blind and close-minded I was being.
That conversation had more impact on me than anything I've heard or read in the last six months.
Not being 'a feminist' was something that I used to say proudly. Of course I was, I just didn't really understand it then. I felt that I needed to fight against something, because there are so many types of feminism that I just don't agree with. And so many feminists that just don't gel with my opinions. But I've realised that I'm fighting against the wrong thing. I wish women would see that their type of feminism might not be the right one for everyone. For you, maybe, but not for someone else. And that's no bad thing. In fact, it should be welcomed. And challenged.
I sometimes get a lot of criticism from feminists. Because I embrace cooking and cupcakes and girly stuff. There's a certain amount of venom towards women who buy into the whole baking 'movement'. Especially if they're pretty (I'm referring to the Domestic Sluts en masse here, not blowing my own trumpet). And let's face it, with a name like Domestic Sluttery, we're an easy target. I get accused of going against everything women fought for, and using sex to sell my website (actually, it's possible I do that sometimes, so sue me).
But I don't write a feminist site. I write a site by women, that cater towards a certain group of women (an increasing group, in case you were wondering). We also have occasional readers, who like our craft stuff, but don't care about shoes. Or those who like dresses or cushions, but couldn't give a shit about cake. See how this works? All women are different. They're not going to like everything all the time. Not for a second do I expect women to buy the apron the see on our site, whilst making cupcakes we feature and drinking tea we recommend. But we do believe in indulgence, and we play up to that. That's a good thing in my book.
And y'know what? It's OK if you don't agree with me.
The main issue I had with feminism, before having that conversation with Allix at Lewis' birthday, was that the majority of the stuff I read, or heard, or saw, wasn't empowering. (I'm aware that I'm being sweeping when I use the word 'feminism', but I think most women are which is where my dilemma started.) The type of feminism that I was reading about didn't celebrate women. Instead, a large quantity of it belittled men. Like the only way women could be strong was if we beat men. Beat them at what, exactly? We could only be better if we tried to drag them down. I still don't understand why women are trying to beat them. That still happens. A lot. And so started my issue with feminism. Or at least that aspect of it. It's hard to believe in something when the women that are meant to be inspirational, are either bitching at your values, or dragging you down with them in their anger. Feminism isn't pretty sometimes. And it does just as much damage as it does good.
I'm not saying that women aren't allowed to disagree. In fact, I'm saying the opposite. It's OK that I like making cake and do crafts (is it more or less empowering that I make an income from making jewellery?), it's OK that some women want to do something different. It doesn't make women less strong. It's the bitching, and the snobbery around someone's choices that does that. You can still be a kick ass woman and want to cook dinner for your husband. Just like you can still be strong in an office if you're wearing a pretty dress and made cake for your co-workers. Or if you go out and drink a pint of beer. Or if you choose to do none of these things.
Women have enough going on without concentrating on the futile. If a woman chooses to wear florals, she's really very unlikely to be making a feminist statement with it. Sometimes, women just like florals. By all means, argue with her issues, argue with her beliefs. But respect them. Challenge what's really important and start debate.
There are so many different faces of feminism. And that's a blessing. We'll never agree on what empowers women, on what makes them stronger. We all have different ideals. But that's something that should be celebrated. In my case, preferably with a cold beer and a piece of cake. We're lucky that we have the choice to think freely. Instead of shouting about the 'wrong kinds of women', let's celebrate and be inspired by the kick-ass women around us. Even the ones we don't always agree with.
Flickr image from Cameron Nordholm's photostream.
The Many Faces of Feminism
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Siany
Friday, 9 April 2010
Labels: feminism , thinking , women stuff
15 comments:
Sian, I really enjoyed reading this. I too hate the anti-male element of feminism. While feminism has undoubtedly given women more options, it has also increased the pressure to be able to "do and have it all". I can't imagine working the hours and with the intensity that I do now when our sons were young. I'm really glad that I had a not too demanding, flexible part time job when they were young. But there was the downside of not having a good job to go back to when they flew the nest and not having built up a good occupational pension.
Nice work.
I can concur that my early experiences of feminism were not positive. I particularly recall, at university, a group of particularly aggressive women making proclamations that "all men are potential rapists".
As a bloke, I can say that was pretty offensive. And I'm not easily offended. While it is, technically-speaking, accurate (depending on how you define 'potential'), it's about as helpful and valid as saying "all Muslims are potential suicide bombers". Not nice. Not representative of a wide group of different people (most of whom are not criminals).
So that's what I thought feminism was. It was only when I met a good friend several years ago that she explained to me that many feminists are more interested in equality than supremacy. That makes a lot more sense to me.
@Karen - You're right about that pressure. But just because we can have it all (and I believe that we can), that doesn't mean we have to have it all. The pressure to do everything we possibly can all at once is pretty exhausting.
@Dave - I'm pleased it's not just me who didn't understand feminism (as a woman, that's quite a strange thing to publicly admit). Equally pleased that someone changed your views as well. Pretty refreshing when that happens.
Excellent and thoughtful post.
This is also something I've struggled with - I love baking, cooking, crafting and play probably the girliest instrument in the world (but I also love science and nerdy things!). But I don't see why my contributions to society should be valued any less that a man's - and that's what I'm prepared to fight for. That's what feminism is to me - recognising everyone (male, female, whatever sexuality and gender) as equal. Different, of course, but equal.
Just don't get me started on the gender pay gap...
I don't think your contributions should be valued any less than *anyone*. Men or women. It's all valid.
I think somewhere along the way, the term equal has become confused. You don't have to drag anyone down (again, man or woman) to be their equal. It's a shame that people think that this is the case. It's even more of a shame that people like myself and Dave had a rather poor view of feminists and feminism because of this.
I remember women, all the time saying 'I'm not a feminist, but...'. I'd ask them 'Do you believe a woman should be paid the same as man for doing the same work? You do? Then you're a feminist'. I always believed a feminist was somene who believed a woman is equal to a man - not better than - equal. (I never, for example, bought into the feminist assertion that if women ruled the world, there would be no more war. Margaret Thatcher, Elizabeth 1st, Boadaceia?). I am a feminist. I also like flowing fancy dresses and chocolate and fairy cakes. I believe in equal rights for men and women, and I also wear high heels and make up. I believe women are still treated incredibly badly all over the world, and I also cry at romantic comedies and lust over film stars. I am a feminist, and I am girly and like you, I don't see them as being mutually exclusive.
I am a feminist.
Like the commenter above, I wear heels and dresses and make-up. I love Domestic Sluttery, baking, crafting, all of the things the DS ladies stand for. Most of all, I love women, and this is why I am a feminist, and why I am proud to identify myself as a feminist.
The feminist movement has given itself bad press over the years, and has had much mud slung at it as well, so I can well understand the reluctance of some women to think of themselves as feminists. 'Backlash' by Susan Faludi is a great book to read on this matter.
However, I believe that a feminist movement of some sort is needed now more than ever. We're moving closer to equality in lots of ways, certainly, but we are living in a culture that is increasingly commodifying women, reducing us to our breasts and legs and uteruses. Okay, that does sound a bit extreme, but it is something I think has an element of truth to it! Our young women are growing up in a culture that tells them that they must be thin, and also be 'curvy, real women' (and that these two things are mutually exclusive) that they must be beautiful and young above all else, and I hate this. This is why I *am* a feminist. But that doesn't stop me from enjoying eating cake while wearing a dress :)
Thanks for your comments! It's nice to see new faces here. Thanks for the book recommendation too!
I agree a lot with what you guys have said. Particularly when Anon mentioned the women being treated badly in the world. To me, THAT is something that feminism could be fighting. I wish women would pay more attention to that rather than moaning about whether or not I've been baking wearing a dress.
I'm keen to find out more about feminism, and read more points of view. Where the movement will go once it gets past this stage will be interesting. Any predictions?
I find perhaps understandable why cupcakes and floral patterns are complained about, but at the same time completely silly. Taking part in traditionally female activities doesn't deserve criticism but as you said there's no point being angry. Nice post :)
Thanks Claire. I totally understand why they annoy people. But to me, it's really not a feminist issue. It's just cake and flowers. So many more things to concentrate on. Cakes and flowers really don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
High five Siany!
I like baking cakes, crafts, floral tea dresses, pink and glittery things. I'm also proud to be given the title of Mrs. However, I do find myself hesitant to admit all of that because I think of myself as a feminist.
Unfortunately, I think a lot of the militant feminists that insist if you celebrate your femininity, you are giving in to patriarchal oppression, haven't gone into the different angles feminism can take.
They should put the energy spent sneering at someones personal choices into continuing the fight for equal rights.
The way I see it , men and women are different but should be equally valued. Simple as that. Now would anyone like a pink frosted cupcake?
I'm 100% obsessed with you and with this post.
*greatbigsmooches*
Bravo! I'm with YOU!
If I wanted to do woodwork, I would. Instead, I like making cakes. Balls to 'em. Since when is it feminist to give other women grief and crap all over the things that bring them pleasure?
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